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Posted on 12-20-06 9:53 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thought some of you might find this article on financial services firms interesting:

From The Economist

Investment banks
Coining it

Dec 20th 2006
From Economist.com


American securities firms have had a bumper year


IT HAS been a year to make even Croesus blush for the big Wall Street securities firms. Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers have all announced record profits and beaten analysts’ expectations in the process. Bloomberg, a financial-information firm, calculates that the industry will make $29.1 billion after tax in fiscal 2006, a 43% rise on last year, which was itself a bumper one. New York’s tabloids have had a field day, splashing headlines like “Sachs of Loot” and fantasising about all the things outsized bonuses could buy.

Goldman, the best performer, is setting aside an unprecedented $16.5 billion to reward its talent, equal to $620,000 per employee across the firm. But it is now so profitable that the ratio of pay to revenue has actually fallen, to 43.7%, well below the 50% seen as a ceiling in the industry. And on Tuesday November 19th Goldman revealed that the bank’s boss, Lloyd Blankfein, would pocket $53.4m this year. This paypacket broke an industry record set only last week at Morgan Stanley—its chief, John Mack, will get around $40m for his work in 2006. The huge sums of cash and the attendant publicity prompted Mr Blankfein to call for humility as his troops reflect on their stellar year.

Even if some bankers do exercise a little modesty when it comes to spending their vast earnings this is unlikely to dampen the mood of purveyors of luxury goods and fancy homes, who hope to pick up more than a few crumbs from Wall Street’s table. Orders for bespoke suits are up on last year, says Jack Mitchell, who kits out some of Wall Street's financial bigwigs. New York officials are delighted, too. They have slashed the city’s budget-deficit forecast, in part because of the sharp rise in tax receipts from investment banks.

The banks can thank near-perfect markets for their good fortune. Mergers and private equity are booming, as are stockmarkets (the Dow Jones Industrial Average hit another record high on Tuesday). Volatility is low, credit still plentiful. Hedge funds and others are trading derivatives at a furious pace, providing a further lift to the banks’ prime-brokerage businesses. In these conditions, the banks have (so far) profited handsomely from ratcheting up their own risk-taking. Across the industry, value-at-risk—a measure of potential losses on a bad trading day—has risen steadily. Some 70% of Goldman’s net revenues now come from trading and investing on its own account.

Everyone knows this cannot last forever. The banks are hoping that their scope will help them when markets turn. Growth prospects look good in Asia and Europe, and all of the leading firms apart from Bear Stearns now do a big chunk of their business outside America. They are also beefing up their distressed-debt and bankruptcy teams, a source of profit that should mitigate any pain from a rise in defaults and tougher debt markets.

But with investment banks outperforming their commercial-banking counterparts on almost every measure, including share price, the gloating will be hard to contain. Just now, much of it is directed at Citigroup, which is under pressure to cut costs and raise its share price. Strikingly, the financial conglomerate is paying slightly higher interest on its five-year debt than Lehman or Bear Stearns.

Moreover, any investment banker worth his salt will tell you that there is not much money in meekness. After a day or two reacquainting themselves with their families at Christmas, most will race back to their desks next week, hungry to make another killing.
 
Posted on 12-21-06 1:31 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hukka_Nepali -

So what are your investment picks for 07 - if you care to share? :)

I'm still bullish on the emerging market funds on my part.
 
Posted on 12-21-06 2:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi Captian bro, i'm still not sure about the picks going into 07. the way this year turned out, my initial strategy was to go 75% cash (not confident abt wall streets' health) and 25 % stock (i am still bullish on biotech & china stocks). but now i feel like that will be being way too conservative, so i am thinking i will go 50% stocks and 50% cash.

i beleive there will be opportunity to make money both in long term and short term investments. so, i will be 25% long term and 25% short term out of my 50% in stocks.

btw, how is the ROI for your mutual funds?
 
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Hukka Nepali -

Would you believe me if I said year-over-year last was roughly 30%? It hasn't always been that way in the past but this time it was ;) I thank the lucky stars of my fund manager .The emerging markets, EURO funds carried the day for me. Bio-tech and blue chips did ok too. Tech was so-so.

:)
 
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WOW 30%!!! that's unheard of for mutual funds. no wonder you don't wanna take too much risk with stocks...i wouldn't either if i were you LOL

way to go!! my best wishes.
 
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Get into forex ; People. Oanda.com gives free unlimited practise acct. It's worth it for beginners.

Samsara; nice to know about you; am not market maker but into trading forex; am trying crude future aswell.
Let me know if any opportunities; where u wrk.
am business econ mjr.
 
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This Spain based website - http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/world-currency/ is also good for forex enthusiasts. take a look.

by the way, i want to ask if anyone of you know any good brokerage firms in India. I want to trade shares and other instruments listed in Indian stock exchanges.. And what docs are required for a nepali national to open a brokerage a/c there in india. Your info will be highly regarded. thanks
 
Posted on 12-21-06 6:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I recommend too . Fxstreet.com. Are there forex brokers in India?
 
Posted on 12-21-06 9:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks, Hukka Nepali. I realize every day is not Sunday and I pray I have the wisdom and perhaps luck to cash out at the right time :)

Kalebhut - Indian laws donot allow direct online trading by people outside India as far as I know. There is some sort of a work around if you open what is called an NRE/NRO account and trade offline through a broker in India. I have not done it myself but you might want to check out some of the brokerage site like ICCCIBank and ShareKhan for more information. But if you are in India, then you can use the online services of these firms - a buddy of mine in India has been doing it for a while now and seemed quite satisfied with the service.

Also, stock of the handful of Indian companies listed on NASDAQ and other exchanges can be traded using your regular US brokerage account. (Duh!:))
And if you are not averse to mutual funds, there are quite a few US funds out there whose portfolios covers stocks in India.

As for buying stock in India as a Nepali, I was told the law is vague on that. I am not a lawyer, but as per the 1950 treaty, you can buy property in India and many Nepalese have sought sancturay under this provision to invest in India. If there are any doubts cast on this in the future, I figured those currently invested would just sell and get out.


Duke1 - Not aware of forex scene in India.

Seasons greetings to you all and best wishes for the new year!

:)
 
Posted on 12-21-06 9:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Anybody with some experience is systme trading; quant in forex ? Any ideas ..?
 
Posted on 12-23-06 12:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Take a look at emini, if you can trade during regular US trading hours. You can get more information at www.cme.com. I would stay away from forex, they are more like a bucket shop deal.

Every SP emini is worth $50 and trades in $0.25 increments. If you make 4 pts a day that is $200 profit, where as if you lose 4 pts a day it is $ 200 loss.

If you guys want to discuss strategies and how to trade and devlope trading systems, I will be more than willing to share(not everything but more than necessary). If you are a complete newbie and want to learn about markets, get some books from your local library and understand the terms.

Here are some of the books to start.

Reminiscenses of a Stock Operator,
Market Wizards 1,2,3
How I trade for a Living by Gary Smith
How I made 2 million dollars by Darvas
Trading for a Living by Elder (this is for basic understanding of the technical analysis that people use)

Later
 
Posted on 12-23-06 2:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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go look at mama.com's stock

ticker MAMA

guess who reaped the profits??

:D
 
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Check out ONSM and SOFO too. What does all these stocks have in common: Low float and hype. SOFO is more fundamentally sound as there is a rumour that MSFT might be interested in them.
 
Posted on 12-23-06 4:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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e- mini ; u don't know what i am talking about .
 
Posted on 12-23-06 9:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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timetraveller, I sure reaped profits in MAMA.

 
Posted on 12-23-06 9:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yeah, Duke Tell me what are you talking about?
 
Posted on 12-24-06 3:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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found this comparison among the top 10 global futures exchange while browsing www.cme.com.

Exchange ---------------futures contract by volume

EUREX-------------------------------------684 million
Chicago mercantile exchange----------664 million
CBOT--------------------------------------489 million
Brazilian mercantile n futures exch-----173 million
New York mercantile exchange---------133
Dalian commodity exchange china-------88
Tokyo commodity exchange--------------74
National stock exchange of India--------67million

This maybe useful to sajha traders interested in futures contracts which include forex futures as well as other exotic n alternative investment contracts. and thanks captain for the info about indian brokerage firms...I'd love to read more discussions about trading systems and strategies from u all if u know any coz i'm opening a brokerage a/c soon. thanks.
 
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Currency trading is by far the largest, but it depends on how and where you trade it. If you use Onada and FX...., then you don't pay commissions but the spread gets you. The success rate of people making money is very small. You might be lucky in the short -term but overtime it is hard to consistently make money. You can trade currencies through a regular broker and pay commisiions which I think is better because the brokers are executing your trades and not taking the opposite side. All the firms that do not charge commissions are taking the opposite side of your trade and if they seem to be on the wrong side, they'll tell you that your order wasn't executed properly. It has happened to many.

E-mini S&P is by far the best and most liquid.
 
Posted on 12-24-06 1:55 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is one of the Motley Fool stock picks for 2007: if folks are interested i will post more.

Healthy Growth at a Value Price
By Tom Gardner (tomg@fool.com) With writing and research assistance from Bill Barker (bbarker@fool.com)
Inv est ment Summary
Earlier this year, I concluded that the health-care insurance industry was being
unfairly beaten down. One great company after another had seen its stock
shaved back 10% to 30% in a matter of weeks. These are the kinds of situations
that make the investor in me salivate.
And so I’ve decided to recommend Coventry Health Care (NYSE: CVH). I
believe it’s the most promising stock in what looks to me to be a very promising
industry for the next decade or more. The stock is attractively priced,
having tumbled more than 20% so far this year, and is now trailing the
market’s returns by about 30%. If I didn’t love the business, if I didn’t believe
in the management team, and if the company’s financial foundation were not
strong, I wouldn’t be recommending this stock when the market seems to fear
it. I oppose investing in companies that are truly struggling, have shady managers,
or sport suspect financials. This company has none of those and I think it’s
poised to deliver substantial returns.
Corporat e Facts
A national managed health-care company, Coventry Health Care was founded in
1986. It operates health plans under the names Coventry Health Care, Coventry
Health and Life, Carelink Health Plans, Group Health Plan, HealthAmerica,
HealthAssurance, HealthCare USA, Southern Health, and WellPath.
At the helm of this business is an outstanding leadership group built largely
by promotions from within. In 2005, longstanding CEO Allen Wise turned the
reins over to Dale Wolf, who previously served as the company’s CFO. COO
Thomas McDonough (formerly the CEO of a UnitedHealth (NYSE: UNH)
subsidiary) took responsibility for First Health. I have the utmost confidence in
this team.
For the past 20 years, the company has built its business in 17 small- to mid-size
metropolitan areas, mostly in the mid-Atlantic and Southeast, specializing in
serving mid-sized employers. In October 2004, Coventry made its biggest acquisition
by far, paying $1.8 billion in cash and stock for First Health Group, which
immediately made the company a national player. Wall Street hated the idea,
and the stock fell 11% on news of the deal. That’s not entirely without reason
— mergers of this size usually don’t work out as smoothly as the two partners to
the dance hope. In this case, however, the integration has gone quite smoothly
and in the two years since the merger announcement, shares are up 60%.
Let’s look at the business, starting with the health-plans group. This unit generates
a little more than $5.8 billion in revenue, primarily by serving 1.5 million
commercial risk members, including ambulatory and inpatient physician services,
hospitalization, pharmacy, mental health, and ancillary diagnostic and
therapeutic services. The second unit, First Health, concentrates on administrative-
only services, and generated around $812 million in sales last year

by providing coverage for state and federal employees and
offering workers’ compensation insurance.
Additional future growth will come in part from expanded
Medicare payments as the Part D Prescription Drug Plan
rolls out additional payments. Coventry is one of only
10 national providers currently authorized under the
program, though that list will expand to 17 for 2007. As
of September, Coventry had more than 650,000 members,
making it the sixth-largest in the country in terms of
members signed up to Part D. While this is certainly promising,
Coventry is competing against some very big players.
Inv est ment Thesis
Over the past three years, Coventry Health Care has compounded
23% sales growth and 43% earnings per share
growth through organic growth and acquisitions. How does
it generate such profits and what does management do
with all that cash? The answer lies in a single passage in its
last 10-K filing, which says so much about why I love this
organization:
We generate cash through operations. As a profitable
company in an industry that is not capital-equipment
intensive, we have not needed to use financing
methods to fund operations. While we did incur debt
in 2005 ... the entire proceeds were used to finance an
acquisition and were not used to fund operations. Our
primary use of cash is to pay medical claims. Any excess
cash has historically been used for acquisitions and for
repurchases of our common stock.
First Health was the company’s biggest acquisition, but
Coventry didn’t stop there. It acquired Provider Synergies,
an Ohio-based manager of preferred drug lists that negotiates
drug rebates on behalf of both commercial and governmental
clients, in a deal that closed on Jan. 1, 2006.
After repurchasing 3 million shares in 2004, Coventry
bought back virtually no shares in 2005, but stepped back
up to take advantage of this year’s lower prices. Thus far
this year the company has bought back about 4 million
shares, reducing share count by about 2%. The board has
cleared the executive team to purchase an additional 6.2
million shares — or 4% of the company — at its discretion.
But what about that debt from the First Health acquisition?
Well today, Coventry has $2.4 billion in cash and investments
alongside $750 million of debt (again, all from its
acquisition). And over the past 12 months, Coventry generated
around $530 million of owner earnings (excess cash
not needed in the operations of the business). Present debt
levels are no problem at all as operating income is well in
excess of interest expense. This is a business with a strong
financial position, backed by a commitment to serving
outside shareholders through stock buybacks.

Valuati on
Analysts are expecting 15% profit growth per year over
the next five years. I believe that’s a bit optimistic, even
considering the company’s strong historical results, and
I’d encourage you to keep your expectations a bit lower. I
expect annual growth of 13% to 14%, which would yield a
total valuation of around $20 billion by the close of 2011,
assuming the company keeps its share count more or less
even over those five years. Currently, the company is valued
at about $7.2 billion, so if I’m correct, we’ll enjoy 22%
annual returns from here. This is made possible by the fact
that the company is valued at less than 12 times next year’s
earnings, a surprisingly low multiple for a business that has
been growing its earnings as rapidly as this one.
It is possible that at today’s prices, Coventry could continue
to sink a lot of money into share repurchases, which would
keep the total market cap lower, but would produce the
same type of rewards to shareholders. I do not foresee the
company starting any dividend payments.
Ris ks
In this industry, there is always the risk of new government
regulations. But I feel this fear is overblown. Coventry generates
less than $0.08 in profit on every dollar of sales. The
much more likely target has always been the pharmaceuticals
business, where the major players routinely earn $0.15
to $0.20 on every dollar of sales.
Beyond the hypothetical political troubles, the company
faces some existing legal troubles. Coventry, along with
plenty of other players in the field, has been named in a
class action suit brought by doctors. Other major players,
Cigna and Aetna (NYSE: AET), have settled out of the case
to the tune of more than $500 million each. Coventry is
only about half the size of Cigna and one-third the size of
Aetna, so its ultimate liability will likely be less.
The other primary risk I see is further consolidation in this
industry. As a smaller player, Coventry could certainly be
acquired in the next five years. If so, I hope it comes at a
price very rewarding for outside shareholders.
Cata lysts
Catalysts for the stock include successful integration of First
Health leading to higher margins and increased earnings
guidance, further share buybacks, successful completion of
the litigation pending against the company, and continued
expansion of the Medicare Part D program.
The acquisition of First Health made Coventry a truly
national company, and with that reach, the company has
begun to realize some economy of scale. However, successfully
implementing a merger of this size is not easy. Witness the troubles that Legg Mason (NYSE: LM) has had since
acquiring the asset management assets of Citigroup (NYSE:
C) and the ongoing destruction that it has wrought on
Legg Mason’s share price. Large mergers are more often
value destroyers than value producers, and I believe that
Coventry’s price is being held down by lingering worry over
the First Health acquisition. So far, all seems to be going
well and if that continues, the value of the company should
become more apparent.
I don’t think that providing earnings guidance is a good
use of management’s time, as it sets up a short-term framework
for looking at the success or failure of the company.
Nevertheless, management of Coventry does provide earnings
guidance, and if it increases that guidance, the stock
price will likely see a boost.
The stock price could also benefit from increased share
repurchases. In the second quarter of the year, Coventry
spent $207 million to reacquire 3.6 million of its shares.
Fully implementing the current authorization to buy back
another 6.2 million shares would boost earnings per share
and signal management’s confidence in the company to
the market. With the share price below where it was for
most of the second quarter, the opportunity for a major
share buyback remains.
If the litigation mentioned above is resolved without a
major payout by Coventry, that would also add a little juice
to the stock. Finally, there is the Mediare Part D program.
It’s still too soon to predict how much it will benefit
Coventry and the other national providers in the program.
Certainly, the lower margins that come from the Part D
business make it a bit of a risk. Still, if the benefits exceed
current expectations, that will be good for the stock.
Sellin g Crit eria
Coventry is well positioned in an industry that has very
favorable long-term demographic trends to support it.
Earnings growth has been very strong and consistent,
achieved through growing the business internally as well
as making smart acquisitions. But earnings growth has
outpaced even revenue growth in recent years, as the
company has seen a very favorable pricing environment.
Management has taken full advantage of all of this to
create a resounding business success.
At the core of all of that is one crucial factor that has made
the company a success in its field — discipline. This is a
business that has grown revenues more than 20% annually
for the past five years, but attempting to keep up that
pace could tempt the company to enter policies that it
shouldn’t. As Warren Buffett has written many times about
his company’s efforts in the insurance business, anyone can
come in and collect a lot of business simply by undercutting the competition, but that will ultimately lead to disaster.
When the competition is selling policies at prices that
are sure to produce losses, you have to have the discipline
to pull back the reins and let others damage themselves.
So if you see Coventry pursuing revenue growth and enrollment
numbers to the exclusion of commensurate earnings
growth, look out. This could take the form of a too pricey
acquisition or a sector-wide loss of discipline in underwriting.
Keep an eye on margins at all times.
If you suspect accounting irregularities or other actions
that put management’s interests above shareholders’,
tread carefully. Fellow managed health-care company
UnitedHealth was forced to get rid of its CEO recently
because of his role in backdating options. While Coventry’s
management is extremely well compensated (CEO Dale
Wolf pulled down more than $6 million last year) and
options compensation does form a chunk of his package,
there is no hint of any problems with the way the options
have been handled.
Additionally, the current political and legal environment is
favorable for Coventry. However, with a new mix of power in
Congress following the 2006 elections, and changes in the
administrative branch certain to occur in 2008, there could
well be a negative effect on the profitability of health-care
companies. That’s a threat that has more often led to temporary
investment opportunities than actual catastrophe,
but it is something to note. It would take a dramatic change
in the political landscape to make me consider selling.
Finally, the integration of First Health into Coventry’s operations
continues. Should we find out down the road that
the company is simply not able to integrate the operations
appropriately, I would consider selling.
For the most part though, I recommend making this a buy
and hold stock, one to follow for decades to come.
The Foolis h Bott om Lin e
Coventry has successfully grown from a regional insurer
to a national one while rewarding long-term shareholders
many times over. It operates in an industry that has
a tremendous future as long as political movements do
not interfere. Though it has been a fast grower of late,
Coventry still has tremendous opportunities in front of
it. A potential triple over the next five years, it’s currently
trading for less than 12 times next year’s expected earnings.
I think the stock is going to be very rewarding to
shareholders in the future, just as it has been in the past.
Tom Gardner does not own shares of any company mentioned in
this article. Bill Barker owns shares of Legg Mason, but no other
company mentioned.

Coventry H ealth Ca re
Ticker: NYSE: CVH
www.cvty.com
Address: 6705 Rockledge Drive, Suite 900
Bethesda, MD 20817
Phone: 301-581-0600
financial s naps hot
(All figures in millions, except share price)
Share Price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $45.96
Shares Outstanding: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 159.4
Market Cap: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $7,300
Cash: . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,410
Debt: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $760.5
Enterprise Value: . . . . . . . . . $6,490
(Current as of 11/08/06)
 
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stx109, Come on, you can do a better job than copying and pasting information. In order to diversify the way you mentioned one person needs atlease a million dollar. I do not think an any sajha user has that kind of money.

It is better to discuss strategies where one can make about $1200-2000 a month. The way to do it is by trading futures. You'll need about $10000 in order to do so. There is always a good chance that the peson will lose the $10000 but with a good system and good money management strategy, one has a better chance of making money.

By the way, your analysis is flawed. US is not going through a recession. It might in the future but recession hasn't started yet especially looking at the way high-yield bond funds are holding up.

For an investor/trader it is necessary to idnetify which sector are going to do good in the future and ride that as long as you can. By my analysis it is going to be high-yield funds. We are going to see a bubble in high-yield funds and only after it comes down crashing the economy will be in a recession.
 
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This is a very good thread....I will be following this thread to update myself to learn more from you guys. Thanks a lot guys for bringing this thread. Good job:) Happy holiday and be safe guys.
 



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