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Posted on 04-24-06 5:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This time around, people had unmistakably wanted a change. And they were this much close to that change. But the politicians who felt more secure in the status quo than in a change succeeded to abort it, divert it.

Now the politicians are going to pretend working hard to bring some change and they will be able to confuse people.

The revolution is aborted for now.

If it does not resurrect by coming Saturday, it's gone.

If it's gone, then everybody won.

King won with his crown and invisible power retained

Politicians won with getting what they always wanted

The Maoists won by proving that revolution, at least in Nepal, will come only from the barrel of gun, it will not come from anything else.

Congratulations to the victorious all !

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Posted on 04-24-06 5:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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haven't you forgotten on key stakeholder in all of this? the question that affects me most is: have the 28million nepali people won? everybody should include the people too. :)
 
Posted on 04-24-06 5:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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oh ok...my response was a bit premature..itchy trigger finger you know.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 5:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sojho aaula le gheu aaudaina ree....tesaile yi neta harule aaula bangyauna janeka chan, yeni haru ko aaula bhachne bela aayeko cha.....people have suffered a lot..yeni haru ko mitho kura ma aaba janta phasne chainan..tesaile ahileko lagi..shree pashupati nath sanga parthana garau ki hamro Desh ma aaba ragat ko kholo bagnu naparos...lets go with prathamicta----saving people's life is and should be our first priority.......Maobadi were using this tactics " they were trying to kill two brids with a stick" well, i guess now we got a fair chance to remove those tyrants and bhrasta netas by making new constitution.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 6:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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An incomplete revolution, no doubt, but if it can produce the same results as a complete revolution with a fraction of the cost in blood and lives, I can understand why people are celebrating.

Monarchy in Nepal, as we knew it, is dead. There is still the possibility of a republic resulting from the constituent assembly but even if Monarchy stays, it will be a severly curtailed one that, hopefully, will survive at the pleasure of the people and parliament. I bet you this time around, unlike in 1990, Girija Koirala is not going to fight to have constitutional monarchy as one of the unchangeable clauses of the constitution.

Pashupati Nath seems to finally have answered all the prayers of "kalyan garun" - at least for now :)
 
Posted on 04-24-06 6:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Personally, I think the revolution paid off and my salute to the fallen martyrs. I am not sure what else the king could have done beside what he just did. He doesn't have the constittutional power to call for the constitutional assembly. So, now it will be up to the SPA leaders to convene the parliament, form an interim government and call the election for the constitution assembly at the earliest which will then decide whether or not monarchy will be on plate of future Nepal. But at the same time, Maoist needs to stop their violence. Raja bata paune kehi ni baki chaina aba, jati nicharnu cha nichari sakiyo uslai.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 6:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Orion,

तपाईको मुखमा दुध भात ! तर..

When these politicians could not challenge monarchy even when this undefeatable mass was very close to Narayanhity with a credible threat to monarchy, you want me to believe that they will challenge the king when people will be at their home feeling betrayed by the politicians ?

The power the king has does not come from the constitution to curtail it by writing a new constitution. It comes from the unwritten tradition. No constitution, no politician and no civil society leader can change that.

Only a revolution would be able to do that because it really needs a total shake up
 
Posted on 04-24-06 6:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If leaders don't get blinded by power again and make constitutional assembly election the only agenda of the reinstated parliament, if the civic society continues its vigil, there still may be some hope, otherwise everything will be same.
There was so much repression by the govt. against the movement, who is responsible for this? Being an absolute king, kg should be held accountable. Tulsi giri and kamal thapa were his pawns only. I wonder how these leaders going to punish kg? Or is constituent assembly itself the punishment for monarchy? But if the assembly elections is held without monitoring of RNA, what will be the outcome?

Nepejee, this was the first crossroad of SPA's roadmap. They have reached there. We have to see what they are going to do now? Which direction they are taking from this cross road.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 7:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Gautam-jee,

Yes, this is a cross-road, but not the first one. This is the final cross-road. One step of re-conciliation, then there is only one-way to go.

Also, this is a cross-road where people do not walk. So, from now on, politicians are on their own. And giving the diversity of opinion among them, not to mention ...well, there are just too many things not to mention, cause of revolution will be lost in confusing diversity and maneuvers.

And remember most of the powerful politicians are monarchists.

And about holding KG responsible for death of 14 people and all that happened, of course he is. But nothing can be done about that. Our leaders are not going to put KG behind the bar. Keep watching, our politicians will start praising KG, like they did to KB.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 7:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Revolution wil continue until Nepal becomes a Republic. It is just a beginning.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 7:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe -

I would have liked to see the Monarchy abolished by this movement. I beleive a republic is the right political setup for Nepal. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like such a thing is going to happen this time. The King seems to have managed to save his rear-end by a hair. I too have my doubts about the ability of any future setup to overthrow the Monarchy but, like you allued to earlier, I think the parties, and to some extent the public, were begining to loose the stomach to take this further. You reap as you sow and what we got is probably in line with what we were willing to pay.

I am cautiously optimistic about the outcome of this movement but will reserve final judgement till I see concrete steps taken towards a constituent assembly and a new constitution. For now, the might of the people and the rule of law have prevailed and the April uprising of 2006 has taken the country a step closer to peace and prosperity.
 
Posted on 04-24-06 7:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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नेपे-जी, मर्नु भन्दा अगाडि नै खुट्टा तान्न अलिक भएन जस्तो लाग्यो है मलाई त। म त भन्छु, ७-पार्टीको माग पूर्ण भएको छ (उनिहरुले माग राखेका थिए, युद्धको घोषणा गरेका त थिएनन् नि। त्यसमाथि उनिहरुको मागै काइते थियो त, के गर्नु अब) । सडकमा उत्रेको भिड यदि ७-पार्टीको हैन भने पक्कै यही आन्दोलन निरन्तर रहन्छ ( तर त्यो अब असम्भव प्राय: भैसकेको देख्छु)। यदि यो भिड ७-पार्टीको हो भने उनिहरुको सबै माग पुरा भैसके पछि फेरि कुन आधारमा सडक मै बसिराख भन्नु खै !

बरु अब ७-पार्टीको रोड-म्याप अनुसार चल्न तयार छु भनि गरिएको बाचालाई अधिकतम रुपमा उपयोग गर्न तिर लाग्नु पर्ने पो हो कि ! यसो भएमा न्युनतम जन-क्षति मै गन्तब्यमा पुग्न सकिने सम्भावना देखिन्छ। "राजकीय सत्ता जनतामा मात्र छ" भन्ने स्विकारोक्ति भित्रै कुनै छल-कपट छैन र ७-पार्टी आफ्नो रोड-म्यापमा अडिग छन् भन्ने मान्ने हो भने अझै पनि क्यै आशा गर्न सकिन्छ।

म युद्धमा थिईन, त्यसैले युद्धको प्रतिफलमा मैले मेरो हिस्सा खोज्न सकिन। जो युद्धमा थिए, लाग्छ खोजेको सम्पूर्ण पाएकाछन्। भोलि नि:सर्त सम्बिधान सभाको चुनाव गराएछन भने मेरो एक भोट पक्कै पनि लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्रको पक्षमा हुनेछ। यहि झिनो आशामा अहिले नै खुट्टा तन्काइन है मैले।

-भउते
 
Posted on 04-24-06 7:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe's 'Kabita' was brought to you by....


 
Posted on 04-24-06 8:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, the revolution is almost over but the its repercussion is yet to be seen. As many of you suggested, we can still reach there. We can still get there with more nepalese people to cheer about it.

But what looked like a sureshot stamp to the end of monarchy until yesterday, now looks fizzle. Have to agree that the king is not going to let go a single opportunity to save the monarchy from now on, and with remaining intact inside the palace, the job for him will be lot easier. He will do it by hooks and crooks, mark my words.

Yes, I was not directly involved in the fight so it is easier for me to say, but change of this magnitude is not possible without revolution and blood bath.

Alas, so close, yet so far.........
 
Posted on 04-24-06 8:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 04-24-06 8:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Unless SPA and people's movement II's ROAD MAP is completely acheived by bringing Maoists in the mainstread politics as Maoists have aggreed in the 12 points aggreement by having constituant assembly election the REVOLUTION will not yet be finished.

People will come out for the aggitation against the ROAD MAP. This is the acheivement of the poeple and they must come out to protect it.

This is the road map:
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Nepal: SPA's roadmap to peace

Sheela Bhatt in Kathmandu | April 24, 2006 19:35 IST


Nepal's Seven Party Alliance has announced the roadmap to peace.

According to Nepal Congress spokesman Krishna Sitaula, all political parties of Nepal have agreed on an multi-phase programme for the restoration of normalcy which will be in the following sequence:

1) The King will have to announce the restoration of Parliament of 2005.

2) Multi-party government accountable to Parliament will be formed. This government will last for a very short tenure of probably a month or less.

3) That restored Parliament will, on the very first day, announce the declaration of intent to have election of Constituent Assembly without setting the time-limit. Also, importantly, Parliament in the same session will invite the Maoists to debate issues pertaining to the Constituent Assembly. Although in the past, Maoists have twice been invited for talks, this time there is an agenda to discuss the issue of Constituent Assembly with them, said Sitaula.

4) The interim government wil be formed with the Maoists on board.

5) The interim government sets in motion a process to elect the Constituent Assembly.

The SPA believes that Maoists should agree to this schedule.

The Nepal Crisis
Sitaula said the Maoists need not worry that the King and Parliament will gang up to crush their movement. He assured that political parties will abide by the agreement between them and the Maoists.

The Nepalese movement has reached its peak in which 5,000 people have been injured ,16 have died and three are missing, said Sitaula.

He said this movement has brought 6 million people onto the streets of Nepal to protest aginst the King. People want a Republic of Nepal. In August 2005, the Nepal Congress had changed its manifesto by withdrawing support to the constitutional monarchy.

When asked if the Maoists would surrender arms before talks start with them, he said, "Don't say 'surrender of arms', it's an issue of management of arms."

He said that since the last five decades, the issue of controlling of the army is the most crucial and has still not resolved.

The meeting between political parties and the Maoists will debate over who should control Nepal's Army.

Situala said that parties and Maoists believe that it should be under the elected government. He was hopeful that within seven days some positive result is expected.

If, before Tuesday's massive show of stregth by political parties, the King announces the restoration of Parliament then the scheduled rally will turn into the victory rally, he said.

http://us.rediff.com/news/2006/apr/24nepal5.htm?q=tp&file=.htm

 
Posted on 04-24-06 11:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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भउतेजी,

आशावादको हकमा त म अनन्त आशावादी मान्छे हुँ । त्यसमाथि मलाई थाहा छ, लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्रले हारेको फैसला भएको घटना होईन यो । यत्ति हो, यो एउटा वास्तविक मौका थियो र गुम्यो ।

र यो गुम्नुमा जनताको अपर्याप्त चाहना वा कोशिस कारण थिएन । उनीहरु नेतृत्वविहिन थिए, त्यत्ति हो कारण ।

अब जो भो सो भो । रपनि यो गुमेको ऐतिहासिक अवसरप्रति शोकको एक थोपा आँसु नझारी, कृतज्ञताको एक थुङ्गा फूल नचढाई हिड्न मन लागेन । मैले गरेको त्यत्ति हो ।

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>I think the parties, and to some extent the public, were
>begining to loose the stomach to take this further.

Orion,

The major party of the alliance was never ready for republic. So it was rather alarmed. As for fatigue, there had never been so satisfying 18 days in their entire struggle of 1297 days since 5th October 2002 for the parties.

As for the people, it had already crossed the "revolutionary threshold". So, some fluctuations, including peaceful days, wouldn't matter. It was not a physical war, it was a war of idea. And the idea of revolution as a distinct possibility was firmly established.

Then the most critical of all, the enemy had blinked. The enemy whose major power was the impression of an unflinching one he had maintained so far had shattered. KG showed the sign of chickening out by the offer of PM under pressure. Misfortune, the fighters did not have a commander to take advantage of that.

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ssNY,

Thanks for the clips.

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Mr. Lonely and Sweetheros,

Even when everything ends, future still remains. And not everything has finished yet.


Nepe
 
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देशमा भएको यो परिवर्तन अग्रगामी फड्को मार्ने प्रस्थान बिन्दू बनोस् भन्ने कामना । हालै देशमा शान्तिपूर्ण आन्दोलनले लिएको बिशाल स्वरुप र महान नेपाली जनतामा जागेको लोकतान्त्रिक चेतनाको विराट स्वरुपले सामन्ती सत्ताको एउटै मात्र अवशेष कथित ज्यूँदो बिष्णुलाई उसको औकात देखाएको छ । त्यति मात्र नभै बुर्जुवा प्रजातन्त्रका पक्षपाती भनाउँदा सात-पार्टी गठबन्धन अनि उग्र-वामपंथी माओवादीहरुले पनि यस जनक्रान्तिबाट पक्कै पनि पाठ सिकेका छन् र बुझेका छन् की जनभावनाको कदर नगरेका खण्डमा यिनीहरुको अस्तित्व पनि इतिहासको पानामा मात्र सीमित हुनेछ। यिनै तथ्यहरुलाई मनन गर्दै संसदवादी दलहरु र माओवादी पनि संयुक्त भै शान्तिपूर्वक संबिधान-शभाको निर्वाचन मा जानेछन् र नया नेपालका निम्ति नया ब्यवस्था छान्न सचेत नेपालीहरुलाई नै दिनेछन् भनेर आशा गर्ने ठाउँ चैं छ। यदि तेसो नभएमा यो जीत माओवादीको मात्र हुनेछ । र क्रान्तिमा बन्दुक नै उठाउनु पर्छ भन्ने उनीहर्को दर्शन फेरी एक पल्ट हाबी हुनेछ । हेर्दै जाम भविष्यले कता डोराम्छ ।
 
Posted on 04-24-06 11:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Revolution starts hereafter....
 
Posted on 04-25-06 12:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe Sir,

Couldn't help writing something in response to your post. I hope we will be able to carry out a decent conversation this time without getting "personal" this time.

Yes, you are right: The "revolution" is aborted. Now it will be Sher Bahadur and the 7 parties running the show. So what changed? Nothing. The parties brilliantly exploited the masses and got what they wanted. The parties proved that they are more "autocratic" and "power hungry" than some of you blamed the King to be. At least, he proposed elections next year so that we could choose our representatives. But the parties, afraid of elections for two reasons wanted to revive what they themselves proposed to dissolve!!! First, they did rightly believe that the people will not elect them again. Second, since they were out of the system for a long time, they did not have enough money for "fohor chunab prachar prasar". Ajab Bangal Gajab Nepal.

The parties are happy. The nation is screwed! What did we the people gain? Nothing. 19 days of agitation, hardships and all that just to bring the people we loathe to power. I don't think the Maoist problem will be solved anytime soon . It will get even worse now. The political parties joined hands with the Maoists to achieve their own political ends. Now they have achieved what they wanted, the tactical alliance with the Maoists too, is aborted. This is indeed a sad situation for Nepal. The political parties who have no leadership, no concrete plans and who can't even look beyond their interests, will make the matters worse. Don't expect the Maoists to give up violence now just because the "burgeoise" parliament is revived.

It is easier to remain outside the system and say whatever comes to your mind, but once you are inside the system, you will have to adjust to the system and follow the system's norms. Sher Bahadur will be our new PM, and he will continue with his "hard line" policies towards the Maoists. Girija will criticize and pressure Deuba. Then Deuba will be forced to resign. Girtija will be PM again and will be following Deuba's policies. Deuba will then criticize Girija for not doing anything.. And the govt. will change again. Give us a break!!! how many more years of this instability!!

Also this has established a bad preecedent in politics. It is probably the first time in the world in the last 50 years where the Supreme Court's decision has been overruled by the leaders using street violence. I don't think this happens anywhere in the world. A nation without any respect for the judiciary is indeed a screwed nation.

I feel really sad that 15 people died and countless injured for nothing. The parties proved again that they are oppurtunist to the core. If they had either "fully" joined the Maosist, or the KIng against the Maoists, then the nation would have experienced some changes. But for at least 5-7 years, the situation will continue to deteriorate.

The only positive thing that might come out from this revival is that the people would now fully realize how bad these leaders are, and we might see an increase in either the Maoist supporters or the King supporters. Believe me, the next andolaan will be teh most decisive one.The next andolaan will either ask the King to assume full control again, or have the Maoists in power. The parties have, by focsing on their petty power aspirations, shot in their own legs. Parties should now brace themselves to face the "wrath" of the people whom they have shamelessly exploited again and again.


behaal cha!
 



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