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narayanbdr
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Posted on 01-18-07 7:14
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GUYS HAVE YOU HEARD THAT MADESHI ARE DEMANDING FREE MADESH? WHAT THE FU(K ARE THEY TAKING ABOUT? NEPAL IS ALREADY SMALL AND SUFFERING IN MANY WAYS. WHY DON'T THEY MOVE TO INDIA IF THEY REALLY DON'T WANT NEPAL AS THEIR COUNTRY. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR HUMOUR. MAUKA KO FAIDA LINA KHOJEKO HO KI KYA HO? http://freemadhesh.atspace.com/ CHECK THIS LINK OUT, ITS REALLY IRRITATING, ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, FEEL LIKE DANG DANG DANG TO ALL MADESHI WHO WANT FREE MADESH. SORRY IF IT IS A REPOST.
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Posted on 01-19-07 3:12
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Terai basI First of all let me tell ya one thing. Nepal is a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual country. Since from ancient time, it always has and always have been like that. Gone are the days when caste like bahun, cheetri, newar etc used to be issue. Let's now try to be modern and realistic. There's no profit or loss on fighting against each other. If you are born in Nepal, you are a citizen. That's it. Period. Looks like some folks like ya created the site http://freemadhesh.atspace.com/. Try to be proud of being Nepali. Try to be proud born in a country where Gautam Buddha was born, where Mt everest smiles at you near your window. Dividing country isn't a solution. Why to divide country? Well for your reason, because there are lot of castes that contradict. Well then, if we divide U.S based on caste, I bet that every part of it would be smaller than Nepal. Think about it. CASTE ISN'T A WORD IN TODAY'S SENTENCE(WORLD). For me, I am a thakali, the caste and community having smallest population in Nepal. But I never regret that I am born in Nepal but instead proud to be born over here. IF YOU HAVE WILL AND SKILL, YOU WILL GET THE DEAL. It ain't matter who you are, it matters what you got. SHOW YOUR SKILL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE BILL. In my class, I used to be get shielded in upper caste circle but never had problem with 'em. Well I know, ya fella's from Terai might have got offended badly but why to blame all because of one person or one group or one whole community and why to blame our motherland Nepal on that? Dividing does not solve problems but create other problems. Terai basi: Looking at the above site, I figured out that the language wasn't even Nepali. Well you guys wanna have your own language, territory blah blah. But it looks pretty much like Hindi to me. One day, one guy from terai was next to me when one white asked " Where are you from?" He said blatantly that he is from India. It just shocked as well as I was furious. Well he pretty much like Indian, but why did he feel shame on telling where he was born? I told him later on that he should be ashamed of himself. Most people hate not all people but some from Terai not because they are madhesi, but they don't speak nepali but speak in hindi rather than nepali. They don't feel proud to be born where Mt everest smiles at 'em, where Gautam Buddha blesses 'em everyday. Well i am pretty much sure that, there are not all madhesis in Terai, but also tharus. I am 100% sure that they don't want to divide country because they felt proud of being where they were born. After you guys divide our country Nepal and there would be tharu's wanting to divide Madhesh as well. So dividing will continue until you, wife and children would be left. I am not trying to create any big issues here but I can't stand when our MOTHERLAND NEPAL GETS DOMINATED AND hurt by her son and daughters like us. I have heard much Nepal called by Indians as a part of India and also had fights with 'em. They couldn't defend their country when British invaded 'em but we nepali fought bravely in order to flew 'em away. Then why are they being so proud if they can't secure their tail? I know they are being Industrialized, developed but because of what. Britian was the one who initiated development. I am 100% sure if we were developed as India, you guys wouldn't wanna divide our country Nepal. Our country Nepal is in a crucial as well as in transitional phase. Our country needs people like you, me to get through this difficult situation. Only finger doesn't make a hand, it needs all fingers to be a hand and function as a hand. Our country Nepal needs everybody, pahadi, madhesi, bhote's to develop our economy as well as sovereignty.
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Posted on 01-19-07 3:16
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tarai basi talai computer pachadi jati lukera karauna maan cha kara ....... JTTM le suru gareko cha pahade lai marna ....... herdai ja ke ke huncha ........ I wish i knew you ....... taile dekhthis ke ho pahade bhanera......... ADIOS ...... bahunkto and all just ignore this thread ....... propoganda matra failauna khojeko ho yo bihari le.
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Posted on 01-19-07 3:16
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तराइबासिका कुरा कतिपय सहि छन, धेरै जसो नै सहि छन, तर खुब रिसाहा भएर लेख्ने बानि चाहि काटिकुटि परमेन्द्र भगतको जस्तो छ। जे होस्, तराइबासिजिले भनेका कुरामा एउटाकुरा के गलत छ भने गएका बर्षमा तराइलाई पहाडिले शोषे भन्ने। राणा र शाहले गरेको दमन अत्याचार आफुलाइ मात्र गर्यो भन्ने र दमन र अत्याचारलाई मोनोपोलि गर्न खोज्ने वहाको भाषा मैले बुझ्दिन।अहिले सम्म सधै केहि ठुलाठालु हरुले आफु खाएर तराइपहाड सबै शोषेका थिए। यस्तो कुरो जानि जानि बुझ पचाउनु भएन नि। सबै पहाडि मिलेर सबै मधेसि लाइ शोषेको जस्तो लग्दैन मलाइ। अनि, अर्को कुरो मधेश भन्ने देश संसारमा कहिल्यै कहि थियो?थिएन। ल मैले नबुझेको कुरो कसरि सिराहा को यादब र दाङको थारु एकै भए? त्यो तराइको नक्सा बनाउने को दृष्टिकोण र पृथ्वि नरायणको दृष्टिकोणमा केहि फरक छैन। किन? उनले पहाड हिमाल् तराइ एक बनाए, त्यो नक्सा बनाउनेले यो पहाडिया र हिमालि हरुलाइ दबाउन सकिदैन, बरु थारु र तराईका लाई पेलेर हाम्रो शासन चलाउन सकिन्छ भन्ने सोचेर 'मधेश' भन्ने राज्य को कल्पना गरेको हो। सामाजिक भेदभाव जुन देशमा पनि हुन्छ, अमेरिका मा पनि छ, युरोपमा त भन्न परेन। अमेरिका मा अस्ति सम्म यहुदिलाइ कस्तो गर्थे? अझै पनि सर्बोच्च अदालत मा न्यायाधिस राख्दा एउटा मात्र राख्ने (यहुदि कोटा) भन्ने चलन छ। हाम्रो देश त्यस्तै हुनुपर्छ भनेको हैन, तर जब सम्म डाक्टर वा सरकारि अधिकृत हुन सरकारि कनूनले रोक्दैन, भेदभावको कुरो गर्नु बेकारै त भन्दिन, तर यो भेदभावले देशै टुक्राउन खोज्नु चाहि बेकार हो। कसरि तराइबासि पनि देशको राष्ट्रपति बनाउने भन्ने सोचौ बरु। बिगत मा राम नारायण मिश्र, महेन्द्र निधि आदि को कत्ति शान र इज्जत थियो? परशु नारायण चौधरिले गू नखाएको भए उनको पनि मौका थियो। यो पनि सोचौ। गोइत ले न चुनाब जितेको हो आफ्नै जिल्लामा, यो त माओबादि हो आजिवन, फुटेको हो मातृकाको रिसले, न सद्भावनाले कहिले तराइबासिको बहुमत भोट ल्याएको छ। आफ्नै मान्छेले नपत्याएका हरुले बन्दुक उचाल्नु को केहि अर्थ हुदैन। चुनाव जितेर पनि काम भएन भने बल्ल अरु उपाय सोच्नु पर्छ।
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karmayodha
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Posted on 01-19-07 3:18
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terai basi, maile ta sanga sorry mageko haina ........ I meant each and every word for you, maile aru sanga sorry mageko matra huun , bad words padhnu pareko ma.
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Posted on 01-19-07 3:39
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oh Terai_basi Bhaiya Aahan ke dimag me ghas bharal hai ki, ho? jaiyo dekhu.. .aahan rastra ke tukrayebala baat karaichhi..aahan ke ye baat thik sujhaiyhai..? tanik dimaag se kaam lu naa. Ghar ma daaju bhai sanga jhagada bhayo bhane tapai ghar chhodnu hunchha, aafno Parents(ur country) laai chhodhnu hunchha..kya bachcha jasto kura garnu hunchha tapai yar? yo bhayena bhane tyo hunachha..yesto ghurki kaslai diyeko? tapai jasta madhesi le garda aru sab madhesi ko naam badnaam bhayeko chha, tapai jasta lai kasaile saath didaina, yo sochnu bhayeko hola hoina..ki Maobaadi bata bhagera aayeko , Madhesi mukti morcha ko Mr. GOIT le saath dinchha bhanera dhukka hunu hola,..tyo manchhe aafai mouka parasta ho... tyo manchhe pahila Nepal BAN BIBHAG, Mahottari ma kaam garthyo,..kehi paisa kamauna sakena..tyes pachhi Maoist join garyo..tyeha pani ramro post pauna sakena..now Maoism pani chhodyo..naya party kholeko chha..yehi ta ho ni mouka parasta bhaneko, ki kaso? la ta daju... Jai Nepal
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Posted on 01-19-07 4:32
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karmayodha Tarai basi talai computer pachadi jati lukera karauna maan cha kara Tan ke hyde park ma ubbera karaeko ho? ki bathroom ma basera karaeko? malai jahan samma lagcha tan pani computer ko pachadi nai lookekochas. maile ta sanga sorry mageko haina I apologize to all sajha users for using bad words. bhanda kheri taile minus terai_basi bhanenas. ma sanga maafi maagya hoina bhane ali buddhi puryaera lekhnu parcha ni. mageko hos ki nahos maile talai maaf gardyen ja. propoganda matra failauna khojeko ho yo bihari le soshan sahera basne ethnic nepali madhise, awaj uthaune bihari ra awaj propanganda. :-) ho byare ho. jitis taile. badhai cha. chitwane thito tapai le thik bhannubo, maile risaera nai lekheko hoon, ra yo thik kura hoina. tara euta kura man feri pani prashta parna chahanchu. maile separate state bhanda kheri separate autonomous soverign country hoina federal system ma separate state chaahe ko ho. India lai hernus, futeko ho ta? america lai hernus futeko ho ta? hoina ni. maile testo federal state chaheko ho. bhai_raja Aahan ke dimag me ghas bharal hai ki, ho? jaiyo dekhu.. .aahan rastra ke tukrayebala baat karaichhi..aahan ke ye baat thik sujhaiyhai..? tanik dimaag se kaam lu naa. federal system maagnu ghurki dekhanu hoina. kasaile tellai ghurki assume garcha bhane thikai cha. ma desh tukryai dinchu bhannu ghurki ho, tero ragat le holi khelchu bhannu ghurki ho tara federal system ma aafno state government, ra federal (athawa central) government ma population ko adhar ma equal representation hamro awaj ho bhannu kasari ghurki dekhaunu ho maile bujhina. federal system main rashtra tukra bha jai hai? buid nahitan. tora bhai bhai bhake rahe ke hau ta hamro ta onahi rahe ke hai. katta tora bhai manai hau. hamra kahai che jaake dekhyau. hum ta dekh ail chi. TU mein dekh ail chi. ban bibhag main dekh ail chi. sadak bibhag main dekh ail chi. prahari main dekh ail chi. katta uppar utha dai hai pahadi sab? kattau nai. padhal likhal madhesi sab ghas chilai hai. seho hum dekhle chi. aa roj dekhai chi. federal government of nepal main terai state hotai ta appan sarkar hotai state level main. central sarkar main appan representation hotai. madhesh ke bhavishya ke jimmewar madhesi hotai aa nepal ke bhavishya ke jimmewar madhesi pahadi sab nepali hotai.
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Posted on 01-19-07 4:41
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I am from Madesh too and completely agree with some of the views presented by terai_basi and others. Madeshy had been opressed and had been treated as second class citizens in their own country in several affair of life. They were treated unfairly by individualrs, administrations, governments and others in some issues such as citizenship, recruitment in army and police and some section of electronic media but if you look a wider range of affair I do not believe they were treated any different than other Nepal. A madeshy has not been deprived of any civil service, for further studing, individuals from Madesy community has taken post of VC in different universities, there has been many secretaries and chief secretary from madeshy community. Many doctors, engineers and diplomats representing our country has been from Madeshy community. Thus, I believe the propoganda created in the name of Madesy republich has a hidden intentions and is against the peace and stablity in the country. I will not out rightly blame India in this regard because that will be a very easy choice and it seems we have a fashion to blame everything on India and Palace when something do not go according to our plan. I believe these few individuals who have started this issue have nothing to do with India nor Madesh freedom but are after cheap publicity and get some easy power at the center. If the website designer of http://freemadhesh.atspace.com/ was truely in favour of Madeshy empowerment he would have designed the web in Maithili or Bhojpur but not in Hindi. The content of the website seems so cheap and without any logic. When most of the industries in Nepal are held by Madeshy community and are in Madesh, how could he say madeshy are unemployed. Does that write know the fact that people from Rukum, Rolpa, Jajarkot and Salyan, who are from Pahadi community, goes to Delhi and as far as Goa to earn money to feed their family and he is complaining about pahadi stealing their job. Common dude, give me a break. Please consider the fact before you speak. I believe, Madesh community needs a revolution in itself not against Nepal nation. That community still has dowry system where a bride is killed for insufficient dowry. That community still has a system of not educating their daughters just because they will go to other house after getting married. Nepal nation has not done any systematic discrimination against you and the cases of individual discrimination will happen anywhere in the world. Even among Pahadi community individual of one caste is discriminated against others and same happens in Madesy community too. You can' t blame on the country for that. Yes, I believe, country should do more to solve the citizenship issues, individuals from Madeshy community should be given more opportunities in police and army. But these are minor issues which can be solved by being within the system. You don't have to raise weapons for such issues dude. Jai Nepal.
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Posted on 01-19-07 4:53
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ye rashtra tukrayewala baat na karai hai ta jhanda kathi k hai? ye naya jhanda ke meaning ki hai? hamra lel ek hi jhanda chahi ek desh me. na ki 2sra jhanda. katti madhesi haru yo bhanchhan ki federal aayena bhane arkai desh banaune bhanera..tara haami yeti kamjor chhaun? aafu lai yeti kamjor thannu hunchha? TU ma janus..kati deptt ko HoD ma madhesi haru chhan...Pulchowk campius ma dherai chhan..TU capmuses ma professors dherai chhan, forestry,agricultar, NEA,Nepal telecom, sab thau ma madhesi haru chhan.. nepal ko kun constitution ma lekheko chha ki madhesi lai seat na dinu ya kam quota chha bhanera..its a free competition,everyone can fight here , if one has talent...he can come up. tapai lai thaha hola ki 1970-80s tira pahade bhanda madhesi samdaye ka doctor,engrs.peofessors haru dherai thiye..tara hamro durbhagya ho ,..uni haru le hami lai lead garna sakenan..aba hamro palo aayeko chha..milera kaam garne..sabai jana sanga ..jasari hunchha, na ki federal bhayena bhane new republic of madhesh banauchhu bhanera....ho yo garau..yesko lagi aawaz uthaun ki how our people can come up in education, be strong financially,and i m sure the time has finished..that someone is gonna close our mouth in this political era of nepal. arka ko kura ma na laagi, aafai sochnu hola,thanda dimag le... not only me, not only madhesi..but also full nepal is going to be unite for betterment of people living in Terai....this should be our motto.. lets find its solution...division is not the solution.
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Posted on 01-19-07 4:55
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Are madhesis under-represented and opressed? here is something from an earlier post by me. Lets talk Judiciary Chief Justice & Supreme Court Justices - Pahadi - 18, Madhesi - 2 Chief Justices of Appeal Court - Pahadi - 10, Madhesi - 2 Judges of Appeal Court - Pahadi - 64, Madhesi - 9 Judges of District Court - Pahadi - 123, Madhesi - 8 First Class Officers in juducial services - Pahadi - 18, Madhesi - 0 Source : HMG (2001), Nyay Parishad Bulletin, Nyay Parishad Secretariat How about politics (*) Central Committee members Nepali Congress - Pahadi - 35, Madhesi - 3 CPN UML - Pahadi - 65, Madhesi - 4 NC(D) - Pahadi - 25, Madhesi - 5 Jan Morcha - Pahadi - 43, Madhesi - 1 as of Jan. 2006. count them Madhesi members of parliament as of 1999 - 20% how about media? Management committees of press council, radio nepal, gorkhapatra, NTVm RSS -- 6% madhesis dont have the numbers of police, armed police, army and maoist but anyone can tell u its all pahadis. (*) I am not counting Sadbhavana cause they are not a madhesi party, they are an indian party. They proliferate Indian propaganda, they speak hindi, not maithili, bhojpuri or avadi. and lets face it, they never win any significant number of seats :-)
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Posted on 01-19-07 4:59
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तराइबासिजी, फेडरल ब्यबस्था भनेर माओबादिले पनि भनेका छन, त्यसमा र तपाइको मा के फरक छ? तपाइको बिचारमा धेरैजसो पढेलेखेका मधेसिहरु ले कस्तो राज्य खोजेका हुन? मलाई विश्वास छ कि तिनिहरु ज्वाला सिङ् वा गोइत जस्ता माओबादि हरु सँग त्यति सहमत छैनन्, तर उनिहरुको बिचार आइरहेको छैन। हुनसक्छ पढेलेखेका र ठुलो पोस्टमा बसेकालाइ 'हामीलाई मोज छदैछ, के बेकार हल्ला गर्ने' भन्ने पनि होला ! अर्को कुरो आजको जमाना मा जात को नाममा राज्य गठन गर्नु कति युक्ति सँगत हो? भोलि फेरि जनकपुरमा भएका पहाडिया हरुको के अधिकार हुने? जसरि हामीले अहिले नेपाल 'हिन्दु' अधिराज्य भनेर लेख्न छोडेका छौ, किनकि यसो गर्दा न-हिन्दु को चित्त दुख्ला भनेरत्यस्तै 'मधेश' वा 'मिथिलादेश' भन्दा अरुलाई नरमाइलो लाग्दैन होला? बरु, यसो गर्दा कस्तो हुन्छ? चार पाच वटा गाबिस हरु मिलाएर 'काउन्टि' बनाउने, र चुनाब जितेर आएकाले पुलिस , न्यायाधिश् छान्ने, अमेरिका मा जस्तो। कर पनि आफै राख्ने, तर केन्द्रले अलिअलि पैसा पाउनु पर्छ, किनकि केन्द्र ले सर्बोच्च अदालत, बिदेश बिभाग आदि हेर्छ, मनिटरि सिस्टम चलाउछ। जम्मै मधेश , जम्मै तराइ एउटा राज्य या एउटा देश त हुन सक्दैन, हेर्नुस। धेरै विविधता छ त्यहा, र पहिला पनि चितवन तनहु को थियो, रुपन्देहि मगधको थियो, सप्तरि, महोत्तरि आदि साना राज्य थिए, मिथिला तिरहुतको भाग थियो। अहिलेको जमाना मा पाकिस्तान र भारत जस्तो जात वा धर्मको आधारमा देशटुक्राउने भन्ने कुरो सोच्न पनि हुदैन जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई। मेरो बिचारमा प्रजातन्त्र र समानता लाई आधार बनाउने हो भने तराइवासि केहिमा कम छैनन। काङ्रेसमानै हेर्नुस, मेरो सबभन्दा मनपर्ने नेता महन्थ ठाकुर: वहा जस्तो घुस नखाने र आत्मा सम्मान भएको नेतै देखेको छैन। यत्रो मन्त्री भएको मान्छे दुइ तिन कट्ठा जमिन भन्दा बढि छैन, गिरिजा को मान्छे भनेर नेबि संघको अधिबेशन छानविन गर्ने समितिमा राखेको, वहाले गगनलाई नै सचिव बनाउनु पर्छ भन्नु भो र नमान्दा गिरिजालाई बिरोध गर्नु भो। तर गिरिजाहरुले आफ्नो पार्टिमा प्रजातन्त्र नराखेकोले नै वहा जस्तो मान्छे ले चान्स पाएको छैन। अनि अर्को कुरो चाहि हाम्रो देशमा यो 'देशि' 'मर्स्या' आदि शब्द लाई तुरुन्त 'ब्यान' गरेर त्यस्तो शब्द प्रयोग गर्ने लाई 'रेसिस्ट' भनेर दुइ महिना जेल मा राख्ने ब्यवस्था नगरि भाछैन।यसले हाम्रो देशलाई सार्है कमजोर बनाएको छ र सभ्य मान्छेको देशमा यस्तो कुराको कुनै स्थान हुनु हुदैन। यि शब्द मात्र नभएर 'भोटे', 'ज्यापु' आदि पनि ब्यान् गर्नु पर्छ।त्यस्तै पढेलेखेको मधेसि हरुले पनि अहिले को पहाडियालाई मार्ने, कुट्ने आदि कुरोको बिरोध गर्नु पर्छ। हामी सबैको भविष्य मिलेमा मात्र छ। फुटेर, एक अर्कोलाइ घृणा गरेर त हामी जीवन भरि उघो लाग्दैनौ। यो त मण्डले हरुको लेगासि हो।
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tarai_basi, ta agi samma chuttai desh ko kura gari ra theeyes ahile ayera chutai state ko kura gari ra chas. taile bhanna khojeko kura pahile prasta paar ......... JTTM le kasari pahadi mariracha taile malai ke dekhauchas ....... herdai ja ahile samma pahadi harule madhesi haru ko biruddha ma hatiyaar uthayeko chaina , jun din uthaune cha tyo din ke hunecha bhanera. jasto sukai je bhaye pani madhesi le auta pahadi ko jyaan liyera dekhai sakyo kasle kaslai besi ghrina garda rahecha bhanera ..... ma hyde park ma chu ki, bathroom ma ki computer pachadi ....... yedi talai tyatro ris rahecha bhane sabai le dekhne gari ris dekha na, ..... ke lukera ris pokhchas ??? ki aant chaina ??? B grade citizen ko kura garchas ..... tarai ma khoje bhane aru jaat pani hola jaslai taile B grade treat garchas ...... arulai B grade treat garda ankha nadekhne, afulai parda halla garne ??? sosan sosan bhanchas ??? ke sosan ho tyo pani bhan na ...... sabai le thaha paos ....
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Lazwally, thanks for the statistics, but do you have records of How many individuals from Madhesy community actually study law and complete their bachelors or masters degree in those subjects. Similary, if a Bahun or Chettry is popular in Siraha or Sarlahi or Rauthahat and he/she stands in elections and wins the post how can you blame the political party for it. Hasn't the state provided equal opportunites to all its citizens. If Mahendra Nidhi, Gajendra Narayan Singh, Hridesh Tripathi (whom I respect as an Individual politial leader for his views), can come front and represent Madesh, who is stopping others.
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terai_basi jyu.. manau seperate country bhayo re Madhes..... i m sure ki tyes state ma pani caste system hunchha, doom , dushat, chamar, dhobi haru lai upper class ka bhanauda haru le badly treat nai garchhan,like u r doing now..tyes bela ma tini haru le pani seperate country ko aawaz uthaye bhane tini haruko demand pura hunchha? :-) So funny..
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Dear all Nepali Patriots: "Lets not argue being a madhesi or pahadi. Argue being a Nepali. " I am a Nepali of pahadi origin. I perused your frustrating sentiments though uttered in an immature style.We all Nepalese shoudnot be the one to let the divisive elements take the opportunity to play in our beloved coomon field... It is true that Madhesis in Nepal are facing discrimination in one or other way. As Nepali citizen they have the right to express their dissatisfaction.At the time the country is heading towards a peaceful inclusive democracy, is it good for some opportunist elements to carry out violent activities? Are madhesis going to be benifitted with this. Protests is part of democratic exercise, but, not the violent activity. If educated people like us start to argue in such offensive manner, what those who never saw a ray of education will do? The way, we are discriminating our frustration is neither in favor of madhesis, nor in favor of pahadis. Only those elements who are trying to create a havoc will get benifit.The communal tension is the greatest enemy in country. Hope, we have been able to settle the decade long maoist insurgency. We could do it, because it was political one. If we ignite another one in the name of madhesis and pahadis, it will be the most unfortunate in the history on Nepal, the saddest thing for both madhesis and pahadis. Communal tension is difficult to manage. Let us share our grievances in a peaceful manner. Be united ...all madhesis and pahadis..for the benifit of our country. Madhesis deserve the right to protest. But let this peace accord go peacefully. We have lots of forums to raise our demands. Lets have a strong madhesis participation in constituent assembly election...lets go in a peaceful manner.
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Bhai_raja, chitwanethito, deshbhaktanepali and all, Its good to know there are rational people around. Being Newar I hear many people call jyapu to newars, I may get angry but I don't get that offended that I make that issue to get separated or take lives. Let me explain words like marsya or madhise. marsyaa -- this word is mostly used by newari community, its only newari version of madhesi ...... doesnot mean anything besides people from madesh .... madhise -- it also means people from madhesh, doesnot mean anything besides that . madhesi people also call pahade , pahadiya, nepali ....... we don't get offended. If you perceive one as a friend, you will find friend. If you perceive as enemy you will find enemy. If you have inferiority complex in your head, you will find yourself opressed. we call bahuns to all khas, they don't get offended. Bhotes to all mongols, they don't get offended, I don't see any reason to get offended in word madhise, doesnot mean anything else besides madhesi. If you understand together we can prosper, or else together we get destroyed.
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INDIAN COMMUNIST MOVEMENT KO DOSRO NAM ' FREE MADHES IN NEPAL" Indian communist is a minority in india which has not a 1 percent of hope of winning election in India. THey are just initating movement in South Asia. They had expected of our Maoist to bring pure communism in Nepal, but that hope too was collapsed by the present peace agreement and mainstreaming of maoist in nepali politics. Now, the communist of India has brought another movement in nepal by bringing "Free Madhesh" . THey have supported the GOit , Jwala to split Terai from Nepal. They finally want to infiltrate our Madhes i group and will take control of it. The people of Terai are unaware of the fact that they will lose their identity if they keep fighinting this racial war in nepal.............. It is the fact that madhesi are discriminated but they are not the only one, but more pahadis than madhesi are discriminated in Nepal if you look figure..... Beware of INdian infiltration in Nepal P Madhesi choro jayamatadi
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अर्को दुइवटा प्वाइन्ट: १। अहिलेको हाम्रो सरकारले त्यो मधेसि फोरमले संबिधानको बिरोध गर्दा किन थुनेको? क्या बेवकूफ हरु। शान्तिपुर्ण अधिकारको प्रयोग गर्न त दिनु पर्छ नि। २। अर्को कुरो यो सद्भावनाहरुले सधै हिन्दिलाई राष्ट्रीय भाषा बनाउनु पर्छ भन्छन, एकताका त सबभन्दा ठुलो मागै त्यहि थियो उनिहरुको। मैले एकपटक अनिल झा जिलाइ भनें, 'ए बाबा, मैथिलि, भोजपुरि लाई राष्ट्रीय भाषा बनाउने भन्नुस, नेवारहरुले पनि समर्थन गर्छन।अरुले पनि गर्छन्। किन हिन्दि भन्नु हुन्छ? यसले त अरु नेपालिलाई इरिटेट गर्छ मात्र। नेपालीले भारतमा कति संघर्ष गरे नेपालिलाई बिसवटा अफिसियल भाषा मध्य एक बनाउन।अस्ति भर्खर बनाएको हो भारतमा अफिसियल भाषा। हिन्दिलाई त नेपालमा त्यसै मानसम्मान छदैछ नि, हिन्दि फिलिम् नहेरि खा'को पच्दैन यि नेपालिहरुलाई, अन्तराष्ट्रीय भाषाहो हिन्दि। नेपालले मान्यता दिएर, सरकारले दुइचार पैसा यसको संबर्धनमा लगाएर केहि हुदैन हिन्दिलाई। तर मान्यता खोज्दै गरेका, रिसोर्स खोज्दै गरेका त प्रन्तिय भाषाहरु पो हो।नेपाल सँग पैसा भए यिनको जगेर्ना गर्न लगाऔं। भनेंको थिएँ मैले अनिलजीलाई। अर्को कुरो नागरिकता, समानता, अवसर आदी इस्स्यु पो मधेसिलाई फाइदा गर्ने इस्स्यु हो, मारकाट, हिन्दि भाषा आदिले साधारण तराइबासीलाइ केहि फाइदा गर्दैन, हद्द भए भारतिय दुतावासलाइ केहि खुसि गराउला, तर नेपाललाइ दुख दिएर रमाउने सरकार अहिले भारतमा छैन, त्यो इन्दिरा गन्धि र राजिब गान्धि संगै मरेर गयो। अहिले को सरकार त नेपालि जनताको सच्चा साथि हो भन्दा फरक पर्दैन। एनि वे, समानता, आत्म सम्मान, स्वतन्त्रता, नागरिक हक, नागरिकता, आफ्नो भाषा आदि प्रतिको तराइबासिको अधिकार र त्यसप्राप्तिको लागिको सबै शान्तिपुर्ण आन्दोलनलाई मेरो समर्थन छ, तर मार्क्सबादमा आधरित गोइत मार्का मारकाट र बिखण्डनबादि राजनिती प्रति मेरो समर्थन छैन। हिजो लाहान मा भएको झगडा हेर्नु भो? त्यो माओबादिका मधेसि र जनाधिकार फोरमका मधेसि बिचको मारकाट हो। यस्तो गाइजात्रा र हिंसा अब गर्नु भएन, र यसको सबै मिलेर बिरोध गरौ र एउटा सुन्दर शान्त र समुन्नत तराइ (र अफ कोर्स नेपाल)को सिर्जना गरौं। जय नेपाल
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कर्मयोद्धा, मलाइ चितवनमा हुँदाको कुरो याद आयो, हामीलाई थारुहरुले शब्दै पिच्छे गाली गरेर 'पहाडिया, कसनके सासका लेरवा' भन्दा हामी हास्थ्यौ। हामीमध्य कसैले उनिहरुलाई 'साला, थारु' भन्यो भने त हाम्रो भागाभाग्, उनिहरु तेत्ति रिसाउथे। (म त सधै काका भन्थें, तर कोहि बदमास पहाडिया हरु अलि रेसिस्ट् शब्द प्रयोग गर्थे र हामी सोझासाझा खतरामा पर्थ्यौं।) भोटे भन्यो भने शेर्पाहरु रिसाउछन, पढ्नु भएन नुरु लामाको अलि पहिलेको 'नेपालि टाइम्स'को आर्टिकल? जे होस, मेरो बिचारमा यदि कसैले आफुलाइ 'मर्स्या' भनेको मन पराउदैन भने उसलाई 'मर्स्या' भन्नु रेसिज्म नै हो।मैले तपाइलाई 'ए भतिज' वा 'ए काका' वा 'ए साला' भनेको मायाले होला तर तपाइले 'ओइ, चितवने, मलाई भतिज नभन' भनेपछि पनि मैले त्यसो भन्न पाउदिन, भलै मेरो दृष्टिकोण राम्रो होस! मेरा दुइ तृणतुल्य अर्थविहिन शब्द।
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fokkat ma din bhari kaam saam nagari tyasai bityo ...... chitwanethito I agree we don't get offended at all when people call pahadiya or pahade. as for bhote, I can understand as they all are not from llhasa. But if we call butwale, pokhreli, dharane no one gets offended. Anyway if its dividing nepal into separate states with one strong federal government, I support it with all my heart. That way there will be healthy competetion between states to prosper too. But I still oppose whole terai as one state, populationwise it will be like almost half population in one state, which is almost like dividing country into two. Nepal should be divided into atleast 5 states to check and balance each other taking population, resources everything into consideration. In some states madhesis should be majority while pahades in some. That way we won't be segregated in terms of race and can learn to live as Nepali in perfect harmony. But dividing country into two can be fruiitful to no community.
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Arrree....Pahadia haru keko madeshi sanga kich kich gari raheko din bhar...Uni haru lai pani to loktantra ayekocha ..ke timi haru matra moj garne..badmas pahadiya haru ho ..jau ..chaang kau ..aba tarkari khane ta testai ho....hahaha
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