We were taught in school that this charismatic king of gorkha unified a nation that was divided in to fragments of small kingdoms.I do not recall anywhere in the earlier part of Nepal's history about the kingdom being a single nation before its unification.How could this be possible?The present monarch which is a product of the gorkha palace endorses and enforces that belief.The wit and military strength of gorkha king Prithivi infact used the offensive military tactics to declare wars and attack smaller kingdoms to stretch his empire.Gurkha king was an imperialist not a unifier.
May all be aware.
"Sabai lai chetana bhaya"
Rr
Please clarify me on this matter.

mr know it all gwajyo,
if you start talking sh#t like prithivi narayan is an imperialist then yeah you are bound to get the digging up the grave as a response.
and yeah the government is right when one starts talking sh#t about the national hero.'
smart@ss like you looking for the true story i.e. digging up the grave will have to come across many true history about the f@#ked up bahuns who f@#ked the whole nation and are still doing so.
as much as prithivi narayan being a bad guy is a slim possibility,bahuns being the leeches has lots of proof..... so if you dont want one dont give one. dont dig up the history and think ahead..

Mahakaal:
Refrain from making offensive remarks to any caste. It only makes you sound like a moron. I do not see anything wrong with analyzing PN Shah as good or bad... What is wrong with that ? I still say if he chopped off noses and ears of Kirtipures, he is nothing but a royal wanker.

yeah. i dont see anything wrong either to perform a surgery of the community who represent only but 12% of the population and the plage that this community has spread and are still soreading.
its simple as that panditji, when you start digging graves you discover a lot of things and it might stink......
look ahead..... you dont drive looking backwards.

Gwajyo, "I'm just saying that we should open our mind to any new theories."
What theory ? There is a big difference between a new theory and assumption. No proof No theory. And who got fuked up when you were talking(ha ha ha hope they used protection) ?

Gwajyo,"But we all know that there's something irrational n' senseless stuffs. But we're just being blind to it by saying that it's our culture, part of our great heritage."
Yo there are irrational and senseless stuff in every culture, but those are the very elements that define that culture. If you start eleminating them then pretty soon there will be no such individual as a Newari, Limbu, Thakali, Gurung. Eventually you will lose your identity.

Gwajyo," I'm just saying that LEARN SOMETHING FROM HISTORY (OBVIOUSLY THE TRUE VERSION) and don't repeat it. If you call INVESTIGATORS and who begin to doubt and do research as stupid, I've nothing to tell you." So what is the true verson then ? Once again YOU CANNOT REPEAT HISTORY(cause its in past tense). Its ok for investigators to doubt but WITH PROOF NOT ASSUMPTIONS.

Gwajyo,"You move on without realizing it was a mistake n' without imprving upon it and keep on repeating the same blunder till you breathe." Yo are you really that Gwajyo ? What do we as humans do from our mistakes ? Yeah we learn from it and why ? Cause we have a Fuggin Brain.

"I'm not here to divide society but just want to ponder some thoughts. I don't think eliminating parasites (no matter which caste they are) has got anything to do with your theory of 'dividing society'. It's like the government saying 'Anti-Nationalists' to whoever raising voice against them."
Eleminating Parasites ? HUh ! what Parasites ? I am not saying you cannot raise your voice...You can even scream if you want for all I care. But if you are screaming senseless asstalk ...Who is making an ass of himself ? he he I REST MA CASE !!!!!!

Mahakaal: You just proved you are a moron. Congratulations... I don't know what caste you belong to but I will more than guarantee you that if you place your entire clan in the power in Nepal, the country still will be as fugged up as it is today. So look beyond the caste and check your calendar -- It is indeed 2005...

Mr. Bathroom - listen to newlynew.

Thanx newlynew.

Like I have always been saying,,,,


Survival of the Fittest....... it can apply with brains or strength.....

all you losers shut up...........

winner takes all......... haven't you heard..............????

you all have phd's ------- player hater degree or prithivi hating degree......

anyone who reads this thread will know it was started by a communist...........

You diss nepali history you are a communist...............

You want to discuss this personally than
PLEASE COME TO THE ------ DMV Tihar Party IN DC....

will be grateful to enlighten some of you in the real history.... History is written by the victorious and not the losers(some of you seem to be from the loosing clan).....

I am just Nepali.......... my caste is nepali and my religion is gorkhali

One Nepal One Nepali

Gwajyo is really Gwajyo.
I am talking to you MORON, not newlynew. YOU cannot even speak for yourself and let other do it for you(next thing you know you're gonna have newlynew mate with yo wife for an offspring ha ha ha) ....WHAT more can I say heh heh. I am done with yo MUTEASS.

newly new, you are bigger MORON a f@#king double tounged sh#T. you want to talk about yesteryears then Prithivi shah is not the only one who lived in yesterday. there are helll lot of people in history.....including you pandit ji's

yeah if you realize it is 2005 then look for 2006, dont go the 18 th century and tlak talk sh#it

Mr. DJ, Bathroom n' Mahakaal (MR. Dickheads)
I don't want to be personal but u started it. You guys are sick and are sycophants. yea, survival of fittest. You won't survive till you suck someone's blood, that's what parasites are notorious are. The ranas and shahs whatever the cast the parasites they belong to. They don't need to respond coz' they've created dickheads like you who drinks the water coming from cleaing your masters' feet. That's what u do and that's what u praise. That's why you need to be personal and start talking about castes (I never meant about any particular caste). You assholes can't be rational and talk in logic. If you're so much sure abt the truth abt any of historial heroes whoever r ur masters, u won't have to talk shit like this. But u're scared of some people who has begun to see the truth. I don't have any more comments on this issue coz' u've proved who r u. The pigs are gonna be pigs no matter where they go. They eat n' live in shit. Noone can change pigs. No matter how much I try to make pigs clean, they'll still go to live in shit coz' that's their habitat. So, i would like to have conversations with human, not the pigs.

Mahakal:
You just don't get it do you, mate ?

1. I am not a Bahun. I just hate offensive comments targetted to any caste... Check your calendar again. 13 OCT 2005 indeed.

2. Yes, PN Shah is not the only person in our history. But he happens to be the topic of the discussion and your moronic brains just cannot see it.

3. Another racial comments directed to any caste (bahun, chhetri, kami, damai, newar, gurung, magar, tamang, tharu etc. etc.) and I will personally rip your m.f.ing tongue out of your mouth and stick so deep in your a.s.s, you will a.s.stalking for the rest of your sorry life.

G bro all I am saying is how can you judge a man who was walking this earth 250 yrs ago by todays standard and values????
I doubth it anyone can make nepal into singapore overnight... and I am nobodys henchmen.. you have too much anger within you.. is that why you are spilling so much venom over here............ why do we have to be divided by ethnicity and caste....??? can't we all livein peace as nepali only.......there is a pimp in every caste who caters to the king, you can look at his cabinet right now see that... there are people representing from every ethnic class..........so dont' even bring caste into it..... caste has nothing to do with the state of mind a person is in. Buddha was born a prince but turned out to be a monk....U can be great too and people will read your name in history......... go for it.... but by calling names you will get nowhere, it only shows your AUKATH and people will know you are full of shit and your words hold no weight.........
THe only I am discussing with you is.. you are calling the man who decided to go forward and win all the small states around him and make a big country, no matter what words you use that is a vision and he was a visionary....
Dude you can't even convince 10 people who have written in this thread, how are you going to convince a whole nation saying PrithiviNarayanShah was nothing but a THUG.

Hey DJ Gorukhali,

After what Chatmandu aptly described you in his posting above, I should not have bothered to waste my time in writing to you. I have just re-read your postings. You only prove again how right Chatmandu is. There could be more than one side of the views. You keep rotting on words like, ?survival of the fittest, rat race, communist, and so forth that makes no sense in relation to the topic that is under discussion. No wonder we have problems since we are full of people like you who do not know how to respect other side of the views. You questioned Gwaijyo's ability to write proper English. You questioned whether Gwaijyo could convince 10 people in this forum with his argument. I bet, with your lame argument, you cannot even convince a single person with common sense having a rational approach on the subject matter. Look yourself in the mirror, dude. And, no thanks to your invitation to DC. Stuff yourself with sellroti in your Tihar party up to your head; no right thinking person would want to argue with your pre-positioned views that you come with closed mindset. You said the history is written by the victorious party. I am sure you do not understand what it means; otherwise you won?t be writing such nonsense here. You have all signs of one of those with a programmed brain. The more and more I read your postings, I am convinced that you have the potential of being a slur and a menace to the community. Keep reading Sajha, dude, it might change your life. You continue to be high on my sheet list. However, I welcome your views or rebuttal if you use common use, without being unnecessarily accusatory.

That said, to continue the discussion on the subject, as someone mentioned in his/her posting above, it is important to look at the history analytically and find out what is right given the historical evidence. I thing that is agreeable with you, DJ Gorukhali, is when you alluded to ?history is written by the victorious party?, and therein lies the crux of the whole discussion that requires a careful examination of the history.

La ja ta mero pani. Happy Dasain belatedly, and happy Tihar in advance.

again mr know it all newly new,
you are not a bahun oh well!f*** that, still them are to be pulled into any thing about nepal and the degrading of our country.
yeah he happens to be the topic of the posting. i know that well enough. but if people like him is started to be talked shit about, then yeah lot of splashes from the history will come out. this freaking post is pinpointing one person, and thats no coool by any means.
you guys dig graves you become smartarse and i dig grave i become moronic. f**k you.

Mahakal:
You still don't get it m.f. You are a racist m.f. and that is so uncool...

Wise and foolish builders
Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock.
Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell - and great was its fall.
Wolves in sheep's clothing
Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits.
These are words of Jesus Christ not me.
They are helpful for a time like this.

And for all of you:
Judging others
Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.
Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

me am racist hahahaha.M*** f**king peice of shit......... yeah if p n shah was a bad dude then yah m f**ker i am a racist.
as i am saying forever. look infront and drive, dont start throwing mud on the historical heroes.

Nirwan.. I am not going to post anymore on this thread but one thing.. stop hiding in your cybername.. mine isn't used for hiding... get it!!!!!! I am real what proof do you have that you are even real.... and not some alter ego talking....

you can read and read and read my thread.... survival of the fittest.. that is why the fittest in america drive BMW's and live in Mansion's and have great paying jobs and some drive a GEO Metro and live in a crammy place with 7 other room-mates and work in a restaurant cleaning dishes.... that is survival of the fittest for your dumb azz....

I could come to your level and attack you personally too.... but I can't sink low like you... if you are saying, you want me to give you space for your opinions than why can't I have my opinion.....

give reason dude... I really don't care if you come to DC party or not.... do onto others that others want to do to you..... I haven't called you names once but you keep slamming me.......... god forbid we don't cross eachother's path.... grrrrrrr

it is not GoruKali.. it is GORKHALI dumbass.. and if you know the meaning of GORKHALI .. you better watch out..........

Those who read your postings, they know what a dumbass you are, to put it mildly. You are making a fool of yourself. You will at least remember that someone pointed to you that you are a zero in placing your point of view in a rational view. You will put all genuine Gorkhalis to shame; thus, I called you Gorukhali. You should know that such "lede dhippi", illogical and silly way will not take you far away. You met your match, dude. I will be reading your postings elsewhere too and get you if you start spilling nonsensical views over Sajha. Keep your tato ragat boiling. And, I will keep my gun powder dry. The nature of the cyber forum is such that we all have names that we are identified by how we place our views or reactions on various topics. They are not valued by our names or last names attached to it as it is usually done here in Nepal. Got it? By the way, I could not agree more with Chatmandu when he chose the best words about you. I am saying all of it for the record because you said you will not be writing on this thread again, but we will see whether you are a pakka or a paka Gorkhali.

Peace. Happy tihar.